We sat down for an absolutely fascinating chat with Arafat Mazhar, who does many many things. He's the founder of Puffball Studios, Shehri Pakistan, Engage, Hashiya and Soch. Whew. He has just directed a new animated film called Swipe, the second animated film from the unbelievably talented team at Puffball Studios since Shehr-e-Tabassum. It's a must watch. Go watch it here: swipethefilm.com In this podcast, we discuss his music career, the serious topics his films address, the connection between love and violence, and much more. Hope you enjoy.